Craft of Making Music

Questions with… Sarah Rudy

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One of the benefits of doing a radio show is the opportunity to explore music with musicians who make incredible art. To sweeten the pot, the chance to interview musicians who write genuine songs that speak to you as a person is a gift. When Sarah Rudy who records as Hello June, agreed to answer some of our questions, we were overjoyed. Hello June’s ‘Artifacts’ was our top pick for album of the year in 2023 which was a rich year for music. What especially moves us is the authenticity of the music that Hello June creates.

The power of authentic music lies in its ability to transcend barriers, evoke emotions, and create connections that resonate deeply within individuals and communities. Sar Rudy possesses an incredible ability to create music that does exactly that. Authentic music, born from genuine expression and sincerity, possesses a unique capacity to speak to the human experience in profound ways. And this is deeply needed.

One of the most striking aspects of authentic music is its ability to communicate universal emotions without feeling false, fake or unreal. Regardless of language or cultural background, the raw honesty and genuine expression found in authentic music can touch the hearts of listeners wherever they might live. Whether it’s a quiet – yet powerful – ballad like ‘Napkin’ or ‘The Moon’, or a spiritual folk tune ‘Soft Love’, or a passionate rock anthem ‘Faded Blue’, ’23’, or ‘California’, authentic music made by musicians who themselves feel what they are playing has a way of tapping into shared feelings of love, loss, joy, and longing, fostering empathy and understanding among people from diverse walks of life. We all have all felt this way. And the music of Hello June, carries all of those characteristics and even more.

Moreover, Hello June‘s authentic music serves as a powerful tool for cultural preservation and expression. Through reinterpretation of traditional songs ‘Country Roads’, gorgeous guitar tone ‘California’ and ‘No Easy Answer’, and incredible melodies — the whole record! — artists preserve their experience, heritage, pass down personally meaningful stories, and celebrate their unique identities. Authentic music becomes a vessel through which cultural narratives are woven, ensuring that rich histories and traditions that do receive the favored celebrations of an ever decreasing set of themes in the mainstream music industry are not lost to time but instead are celebrated and cherished for generations to come.

In addition to its cultural significance, authentic music has the power to inspire and provoke change. As listeners we are changed when we hear this music. A whisper — ‘Country Roads’, ‘Soft Love,’ ‘The Moon’ — can be as powerful as the loudest cry in the mix of hope and despair — ‘California,’ ‘No Easy Answer’. A protest song does not always require a message to fuel social movements with anthems of resilience and hope in the face of adversity, that can be accomplished within a deeply personal statement as well. Music has historically played a pivotal role in driving social and political change. Through its ability to rally people around common experience and ignite a sense of solidarity from the ebbs and flows of pain, authentic music becomes a catalyst for action at all levels, challenging the status quo and advocating for a better world, even if the focus is in your neighborhood or your home.

Dr. J: What can you share with us about when and how you started writing music?

Sarah Rudy (SR): I started to learn to play guitar in high school, but I wasn’t truly focusing on the act of songwriting yet. It wasn’t until college, where I spent a lot of time exploring with different artistic mediums and experimenting with different forms of creating. This is where I started to really feel an affinity towards writing songs.

Dr. J: What first led to your recording music? How do you approach production?

SR: I started to craft songs on the GarageBand DAW (Digital Audio Workstation) about the same time I started writing. Using a DAW in my workflow made sense, even at that point, because I wanted to work out fairly full arrangements. I wasn’t happy with just writing the bones of the song – I needed to feel the environment that song created. I guess my thought with this has always been that if I can’t get the song to “feel right” in physical space, I wouldn’t want it released. These days, I’ve found that my process is less of a rush to the production phase of things.

For me, the daw has been an integral part of my writing, but when it comes to recording an album, I’ve let others steer the ship. I’ve loved each studio experience I’ve had, but Ive learned so much that I can’t imagine giving up that much creative control on the next one. For the next releases, I plan to record those here in our studio and I plan on pulling in some good musician/engineering friends as needed. With the next releases, I want the recordings to be as vulnerable and closeup as they can be and I feel like it’s my job to figure out how to get there.

Dr. J: The song ‘California’ captures a remarkable constellation of musical influences. The song seems to have an almost 1980s feel. Is that a correct interpretation? If that is correct, did you intend to create a song that connects to that time period? If that is not correct, how would you describe the feeling of the song?

SR: I wanted the song to have a “nostalgic” feel – that was my main goal, tone-wise. I wanted California to capture the feeling of charged love – the kind that feels exciting and scary. In order to write the song, I really needed to take myself back to the “me” that existed in my 20s. I wanted the song to capture a certain hue/tone/light – I love that it takes you back to a particular place.

Dr. J: Where do you often derive inspiration to make music?

SR: I like to be completely focused, immersed, and filled up by the things I’m working on. If there is a thought, a line, a feeling, anything that sparks something in me that makes me tilt my head or feel a bit of magic, I usually feel inclined to chase it. I have found though, that the hardest thing is pulling inspiration from an anxious or avoidant mind, so in order to allow myself the freedom to create, I try to practice self awareness and allow myself the grace to come back to an idea if my mind/body isn’t in a favorable state to produce something meaningful. In terms of what I’m writing about lately – this week I’ve written a song that nods back to a time in my childhood and another one about feeling sort of feeling like an outsider. I guess I’m always just trying to process the thoughts that go through my mind.

Dr. J: How would you describe the music that you create? How has that process evolved or changed over time (especially as you think about your journey in the last few years)?

SR: Hmmm – great question. I usually tell people that we are an “indie rock band” that has been accepted in the Americana crowds. Live, we like to get down really soft and vulnerable and we like to bring the volume up just as heavy in those big parts. I love to marinate in the details of ambient sound, so that aspect usually isn’t too far away. I try to write songs that heal my head because i do feel like we’re all sharing around ideas and latching onto the ones that resonate with us. I guess I just hope that I get a chance to resonate with the right people.

Dr. J: What is next for you musically? How would you describe your thoughts at this point for your next project or release?

SR: I feel like I am just now really starting to understand who I am as a musician, as a singer, and as someone who is committed to living a creative life. I just had a few really exhaustingly rough months – this industry is tough. I do, now though, feel like I can clearly see my path forward, and I haven’t felt that, until now. I feel strong, autonomous, and I’m moving with purpose and allowing myself to nurture my creative spirit in ways that I haven’t felt able until now.

We will be launching a Patreon here in a month or two and I couldn’t be more excited about all that comes with it. We’ve labored so much over these thoughts. My next moves, including the Patreon, are a shift away from asking the industry to see me. The industry isn’t healthy enough for anyone to lean on, so leaning seems like a bad idea, right? To me it does, and I’m unwilling to spin my wheels anymore, I guess. I want a conversation directly with my fans. I want a way to build a community up in the way that I want to – not what someone else thinks I should be doing. It’s maybe an unglamorous and practical way to see it, but I hope to be a voice in this realm and I believe we need more alternatives thrown around. My hope is that my fans (and others) begin to see that the industry only serves the very top artists – the rest are hoping, floundering, and making bad decisions that they feel like they have to make, just to be seen. As an artist, you’re told many things you “need to do” and a lot of these things are distractions from what we should be spending time on. I’ve built a strategy that is not reliant on any industry because I refuse to be dragged around, and that’s where I felt I was.

That all being said, I am working on my first solo record. I am separately working with a small group of people on a brand new Hello June record. What’s more exciting to me than that is how much I’ll be incorporating Patreon into these releases. For instance, one perk of the Patreon that I’m super excited about is letting our fans in on our process. By that, I mean, incorporating them into the process – they will get access to bits and pieces (say, a verse and a chorus in length) and they’ll be able to choose which songs we move forward with as a band. We’ll then get to work and have “fly on the wall” sessions where they are invited to watch the next steps of the process. We’ll come back around to everyone with full songs, and some those full songs will eventually be released. I’m hoping to bring my fans closer to the project, be creating more than I am “content posting” and really grow and learn as musicians and artists in the meantime.

Dr. J: What is your favorite song to perform live? What is your favorite song to perform in general? What makes that song a current favorite in your performances?

    SR: I think I’ll always be fond of playing “Handshakes” live – the flow of that one live is just really really fun. When people lock in with me, it’s as if we’re actively having a conversation and they get me. They hear me. The same goes for Interstate. That song has bridged gaps and has healed my heart in ways that only sharing that song with fans would have allowed. I love looking out to audience and knowing that our experience is shared. I’ve had many beautiful experiences with this song.

    We also have a currently unreleased song called “Another Life.” We decided not to put it on Artifacts, but it’s been a fan-favorite since we’ve played it live. It stems from the same story-line as “California,” so I’d say you can expect a similar air to it. Our Patreon folks will get that one early for sure.

    We want to extend our sincere gratitude to Sar Rudy for answering our questions and continuing to make truly authentic excellent music! Click on the links below the article to visit Hello June’s social media or to listen to the songs that we discussed! If any musicians or artists would like to participate in future ’Questions with…’ columns, please feel free to email us at drjytaa@gmail.com. All photos and images courtesy of Hello June.

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    11 Questions with… Trapper Schoepp

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    In the tapestry of rootsy Americana music, Trapper Schoepp emerges as a singular and unyielding thread, weaving tales that resonate with a raw cinematic voice of American storytelling. Hailing from the heartland of Wisconsin, Schoepp is not just a musician; he is a troubadour, a poet, and a chronicler of the human experience. In April of this year, Trapper embarked on a journey and invited us to come along. His last album remains a fast drive on a gravel road through lyrical landscapes and melodic realms. Of his album, Siren Songs,’ — perhaps more a collection of stories from the heart and bone of life — we can feel the distance in time, place, and relationships.

    Schoepp’s music is an alchemy of tradition and innovation, a fusion of folk, rock, and Americana that defies easy categorization. Schoepp’s work is imbued with a sense of timelessness, a nod to the roots of American music while fearlessly exploring his own territories. His songs are not mere compositions; they are living entities, breathing and evolving with each note, each chord, and each carefully chosen word.

    The lyrical prowess of Trapper Schoepp is reminiscent of the great storytellers who have graced the American musical landscape. It is clear that Schoepp is a connoisseur of lyrics that cut to the core of the human experience and find solace in vivid portraits with words. Whether unraveling the complexities of love or navigating the tumultuous waters of contemporary society, Schoepp’s lyrics are a mirror reflecting the question of where we go from here, when we are not even sure what that means.

    Yet, Schoepp is not content with resting on the laurels of tradition. Schoepp fearlessly tackles pressing social issues, offering poignant commentary on the state of the world. His music becomes a vessel for introspection and societal critique, echoing the sentiments of an artist committed to using his craft as a force for change.

    Trapper Schoepp stands as a beacon. Through his unwavering commitment to authenticity and unrelenting passion for storytelling, Schoepp not only pays homage to the roots of American music but also pushes the boundaries, leaving an indelible mark on the ever-evolving tapestry of sound. Thank you for taking the time to answer our questions, good sir!

    Dr. J: What can you share with us about when and how you started writing music?

    I herniated a disc in my back when I was fifteen. My mother signed me up for guitar lessons and here I am! Still at it. My dentist at the time also gave me and my brother a box set of early Bob Dylan CDs. I think it was just serendipitous timing that I found music. Also, the stillness of a small town makes any kid start looking for a world outside of the one they see. 

    Dr. J: What first led to your recording music? How do you approach production?

    Songs first! I just did an album at Johnny Cash’s Cabin and I used the same two mics for 14 songs. Granted, very nice mics! But I try not to obsess too much on the technical side of recording. Leave it to the pros! We had two really great producers on my latest album – Patrick Sansone of Wilco and John Jackson of The Jayhawks. Both brought a lot of wisdom and joy to the recording process. 

    I recorded my first album along Lake Pepin in Wisconsin with a group called Patchouli. I stripped the paint off their house in exchange for recording time. However ya gotta get it done, it gets done. I think a lot of artists feel this need to do it. That’s important. 

    Dr. J: The cover of Lefty Frizzell’s ‘Long Black Veil’ is your most recent music, what led to the making of that song? What were the main influences on your recording of this song?

    Obviously, Johnny Cash! You’ve heard of him?! I think he’s the last thing we Americans all agreed on…It’s a beautiful and haunting tune we’ve been ending our shows with. The story of a love triangle gone wrong with a public hanging in the town square… Classic folk music. Sign me up!

    Dr. J: The song ‘Cliffs of Dover’ is the lead track on your last full-length album, Siren Songs seems to capture a remarkable constellation of musical influences. The song seems to have a pop feel. Is that a correct interpretation? If that is correct, did you intend to create a song that connects to that style? If that is not correct, how would you describe the feeling of the song?

    I’m obsessed with classic pop music from the 60s and 70s. Stuff like Paul McCartney, Gilbert O’Sullivan, Harry Nillson, Randy Newman…Songwriter’s songwriters. Those singers inspire me a lot but I’m also listening to old-school hip-hop, Brian Eno’s ambient records, and early folk and blues music. I try to be open to any kind of music as long as it moves me.

    Dr. J: How did the song ‘Cliffs of Dover’ come together musically for you?

    I think I was listening to the song “Ca Plane Pour Moi” by Plastic Bertrand while news of the end of the Afghanistan war was on the TV. I felt so heartbroken for all those lost, as well as those dealing with PTSD. The lyrics describe a veteran struggling and the chorus takes us back to Vera Lynn’s WW2 anthem. 

    Dr. J: Where do you often derive inspiration to make music?

    As a songwriter, I’m always hot on the trail for the next song idea. It could be anything. A TV show, a good meal, an overheard conversation…Anything can inspire a song if you let it. 

    Dr. J: How would you describe the music that you create? How has that process evolved or changed over time (especially as you think about your journey in the last few years)?

     For better or worse, I’m an inspired writer. I’m typically not sitting down, hammer and nail, pounding out songs every day. I try to write and sing what I’m excited about at that moment. There’s no particularly great mystery to it. It can be thought of as a trade as anything else. There is a magic to it, though.

    Dr. J: What is next for you musically? How would you describe your thoughts at this point for your next project or release?

    I’m interested in the classic country now but we’ll see if I still have my old boots around…

    Dr. J: What is your favorite song to perform live? What is your favorite song to perform in general? What makes that song a current favorite in your performances?

    Typically whatever is the newest to the set. Going into that great unknown musically can be a thrill. We play a Dylan song “Meet Me In The Morning” after the song I published with Bob Dylan, “On, Wisconsin.”

    Dr. J: What is one message you would hope that listeners find in ‘Cliffs of Dover’?

    It’s a call to peace in a sense. We’re living through difficult times now and I think music can be good balm. Despite the darkness and war in the world right now, I’m hoping we find some light through art and music. 

    Dr. J: As a musician, how are you adapting to the challenges of creating music? What are your biggest challenges in creating music?

    Finding the time! I think performers of all kinds are pulled in a lot of different directions and it’s good to make that time for yourself to write.

    We want to extend our sincere gratitude to Trapper Schoepp for answering our questions and continuing to make some really excellent music! Click on the links throughout the article to visit his social media or to listen to various songs that were discussed! If any musicians or artists would like to participate in future ’11 Questions with…’ columns, please feel free to email us at drjytaa@gmail.com. All photos and images courtesy of Trapper Schoepp.

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